Curse

Numa Pompilius · Jun 22, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

I tested the spirit bond + protective spirit build, and yeah it works, you don't die as quickly from degen as if you're a 55 since you can have as high health as you want, but all in all it didn't seem any better (or worse) than my 55.

Is the sb+ps build just a gimmick, or am I missing some crucial advantage over 55's?

Katari · Jun 22, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I tested the spirit bond + protective spirit build, and yeah it works, you don't die as quickly from degen as if you're a 55 since you can have as high health as you want, but all in all it didn't seem any better (or worse) than my 55.

Is the sb+ps build just a gimmick, or am I missing some crucial advantage over 55's?

It requires less specific equipment, it requires no healing prayers at all, casts faster than breeze, and can tank as many mobs as you can get hitting you, provided that they deal more than 60 damage before Prot Spirit.

As long as the damage is consistantly triggering SB, I like the SB/PS build better.

Maxiemonster · Jun 22, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22

55 Health is useful for every place (even lower level places), though PS/PB is better for all high level places (UW, Droknar's Forge Trolls etc.).

Ietwat · Jun 22, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Spirit Bond and PS have more flexibility, as: 55/ss-sv'ers are not able to get past the Obsidian Behemots in UW. A modified spirit bond build can.

As for 55, it leaves no room for error, 1 hit and ure dead, with Spirit Bond u have room for errors, when something gets interupted dont worry u have time to recast it before ure dead

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I prefer Spirit Bond over 55 hp in UW cuz u dont need to drain the smites first with our build and they cant smite some hex of

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Zakarr · Jun 24, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Too bad I deleted pre-sear AL 5 armor set.

Would allow to farm some other places.

JYX · Jun 24, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

55 Health is useful for every place (even lower level places), though PS/PB is better for all high level places (UW, Droknar's Forge Trolls etc.).

Depending on the spawn, the fierce can pretty much block the door to the forge trolls. Their preps do less than 60 damage a go, I think, although I die too fast to tell really what's going on. You can get past them most of the time with a good speed boost, but on very select occasions (rarely) they're clumped so tight they nail me before I even have a chance. I figure armor switching would probably solve this, but it happens too rarely and I'm too lazy to try.

The sb+ps is very very cheap to do. You need a minimal amount of stuff in prot, energy management (balth spirit and/or essence bond), pick a good spot and that's it...you're invincible. You can pretty much start farming at any level.

Maxiemonster · Jun 24, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

The Fierce only deal less then 60 damage if you have good Armor, but with some weak armor, they'll deal enough damage (I recommend the Sheperd's set with 15 Armor from the first Canthan crafters).

JYX · Jun 24, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

The Fierce only deal less then 60 damage if you have good Armor, but with some weak armor, they'll deal enough damage (I recommend the Sheperd's set with 15 Armor from the first Canthan crafters).

erm...no they hit me while nude and did less than 60. The arrows aren't the main problem, it seems the prep is the issue.

TadaceAce · Jun 24, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Zakarr

Too bad I deleted pre-sear AL 5 armor set.

Would allow to farm some other places.

ahaha yeah, pre-searing / starter armor is priceless until they change something about this build.

Also with this build you can run the holy wrath smiter which is a leetly simple build compared to SS

Oh and also I think there is some kinda bad coding when it comes to nude versus low lvl armor. Because I was nude trying to farm darkroot and he was hittin me for 20s... (not from prot spirit I have 455 life). Damn assassin mobs..

zemelett · Jul 03, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

There also seems to be a bug with this skill that the new quest for the dragon festival doesn't activate it...I know they hit hard enough but it just never gets activated.

jimmyhats · Aug 16, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20

fierce hit for around 48 dmg with 15AL armor... i just run past them with sprint or whatever.... if you really have your heart set on killing them, try an al-10 weapon... dunno if it will drop your al enough, ive never cared to try

edit: lol! just noticed how ancient this thread is xD

Avarre · Aug 16, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by Ietwat

Spirit Bond and PS have more flexibility, as: 55/ss-sv'ers are not able to get past the Obsidian Behemots in UW. A modified spirit bond build can.

Not even the fact this thread was necroraised by the above poster shall stop me from educating you!

Behemoths are very easy to clear with 55 + SS, interrupt springs, tank them... its not exactly rocket science

J3mo · Aug 17, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Not even the fact this thread was necroraised by the above poster shall stop me from educating you!

Behemoths are very easy to clear with 55 + SS, interrupt springs, tank them... its not exactly rocket science

Natures renewal ftw ?
I actually got to the necro area in UW, yea we killed the mesmers, with 3 man just for fun. (for your information: necros=bye bye)
55 Wont work

Avarre · Aug 17, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24

You don't need long enchants, drop Blessed Aura, maintain Baltha Spirit and Mending (0 regen). Then stand there and tank, you take more than enough hits (esp with bonetti up, but not needed) to keep prot spirit going.

Necro moves in, places SS. The monk learns HS pattern and interrupts all the behemoths.

For your information, 3-man can clear UW, so I'm not sure of the point of your comment...

Shadow-Hunter · Aug 17, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

i have killed the first 6-9 Behemoths with a SS/SV necro.. (Monk had left) .. I was hiding behind the wall and simply outdmging the Heal Trap with SS + Reckless haste.. Altho the Air eles hurts x.x

~Shadow

lambda the great · Aug 17, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by J3mo

Natures renewal ftw ?
I actually got to the necro area in UW, yea we killed the mesmers, with 3 man just for fun. (for your information: necros=bye bye)
55 Wont work

Here you go.